pamposh
09-15 03:05 PM
You can do all you want and be as blunt. USCIS doesn't have to answer to you. Stop chanting the "HIGHLY SKILLED", paying all taxes, nonsense. You were not brought to the USA at gun point. You chose to come (and stay). The USA can just put one ad in the newspaper anywhere in the world and there will be 10 million highly skilled NEW people they can bring. They do not need you (us). It is important to remember that we are not doing anyone a favor by being here except yourselves.
Again, because USCIS is so BIG and has millions of applications to process they can say they are trying their best and cannot reply to each individual.
you are right we were not brought here on a gun point but at the same time we did not beg anyone to bring us here... it is entirely a two sided business deal... and no one is doing any favor to anyone here ... we are doing our job and they must do their's. and yes we are "Highly Skilled" and we do deserve repect and our voices do deserve to be heard. Sure they can put an Ad in any newspaper and replace me with someone else but the question here is not about you or me... it is about the "LEGAL IMMIGRANTS" and which in that case would include anyone who they bring in to replace me.
Again, because USCIS is so BIG and has millions of applications to process they can say they are trying their best and cannot reply to each individual.
you are right we were not brought here on a gun point but at the same time we did not beg anyone to bring us here... it is entirely a two sided business deal... and no one is doing any favor to anyone here ... we are doing our job and they must do their's. and yes we are "Highly Skilled" and we do deserve repect and our voices do deserve to be heard. Sure they can put an Ad in any newspaper and replace me with someone else but the question here is not about you or me... it is about the "LEGAL IMMIGRANTS" and which in that case would include anyone who they bring in to replace me.
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mirage
03-06 04:41 PM
Just a small correction, we are not asking to end discrimanting against 'Indians'. It is asking to stop discrminating against anybody, be it Indian, Chinese etc...We are not asking for discriminating ROW. All we are asking is to end discriminating Indians.
ghost
06-21 10:03 PM
GCBy3000,
You cannot quote a post which is day old and ask the question "what are the hearings for?". Apparently the post you are quoting is made before the news came out that the hearings will be held. Is this GC thing getting on your nerves:)
Good if it happens. But when? What makes it to say it is dead for the lawmakers. If it is likely to be dead by the end of July, then what for the hearings in the month of august before the next recession? No hopes for anything, until something is signed by the president. Any new BILL, agian the same senate, congress, commitee process and KILL it at the end. Hmmm it is just my frustration and I am not blaming anyone. I am there to fight till the end(?? I dunno where the end is though).
Now to the big question, as of today, what is the status of CIR Bill. The hearings will be held in the month of August (House Folks are planning to call in the Senate Members to testify in these hearings, which is impossible because the Senate will be in Recess in the Month of August).
So the most optimistic guess would be that the hearings will be stretched into September. In October, the Senate (I'm assuming even the house) will go on recess again for the elections in November. Once the hearings end (September) and the elections end, depending on who will control the majority, the CIR bill will be brought into day light. The reason I say this is because CIR is the only way, as of now, they are dealing with the border problem. They have no choice but to address the border problem, for security reasons.
So the CIR will be discussed again, optimistically, in december. The House will name the conference committee members and schedule the conference committee. The conference committee may meet and discuss the differences in December/January. I'm confident that both chambers of congress will be more comfortable to deal with CIR after the elections. As I have said earlier, they have no choice but come up with some kind of border security legislation out of the conference committee. Optimistically, CIR may become law by next summer and it would be helpful for us, if our provisions survive the storm.
I agree with the "Passing under the radar" philosophy put forward by IV Core Team. Our best bet is CIR compared to other explicit bills like SKIL. Besides, if I understand SKIL correctly, it benifits only folks with Master's degree in US and 3 years of work experience in a related field (I do have this). So that is not a comprehensive solution for IV members.
The anti-immigration and outsourcing sentiment is high in this country now. Also, the corporations are only lobbying for H-1B visas. They will never lobby for GC's. It's against their interests for us to get GC's. So we, the GC seekers, are on our own. IV membership is below 5000 and our contributions are around 130K. IMO, this is not enough to influence the president to sign an emergency relief bill (someone suggested this) or even lobby the Congress for explicit bills like SKIL.
The best thing that we can do as of now is to get personally involved in recruiting more members for IV. I've pledged to myself that by the end of July, I'll ensure that I'll recruit 10 new members for IV. If we can get our membership atleast close to 50000 by the end of this year then we can make some significant noise.
So our options are:
1) To wait until next summer for CIR
2) EB3 folks with PD's as 2003 or higher, try to find a new job and file as EB2
3) EB2 folks with PD's 2004 or higher, try to find a new job that'll file for GC within 6 months
4) People who are in 7/8/9 years extensions of H1-B, consult good immigration lawyers and weigh in your options. The worst case scenario for you is to stick with your current firm as long as it takes for your GC. But there is no harm in trying, you may end up finding other viable options.
Long post, huh? This GC thing is getting on my nerves too:)
Peace Out!
You cannot quote a post which is day old and ask the question "what are the hearings for?". Apparently the post you are quoting is made before the news came out that the hearings will be held. Is this GC thing getting on your nerves:)
Good if it happens. But when? What makes it to say it is dead for the lawmakers. If it is likely to be dead by the end of July, then what for the hearings in the month of august before the next recession? No hopes for anything, until something is signed by the president. Any new BILL, agian the same senate, congress, commitee process and KILL it at the end. Hmmm it is just my frustration and I am not blaming anyone. I am there to fight till the end(?? I dunno where the end is though).
Now to the big question, as of today, what is the status of CIR Bill. The hearings will be held in the month of August (House Folks are planning to call in the Senate Members to testify in these hearings, which is impossible because the Senate will be in Recess in the Month of August).
So the most optimistic guess would be that the hearings will be stretched into September. In October, the Senate (I'm assuming even the house) will go on recess again for the elections in November. Once the hearings end (September) and the elections end, depending on who will control the majority, the CIR bill will be brought into day light. The reason I say this is because CIR is the only way, as of now, they are dealing with the border problem. They have no choice but to address the border problem, for security reasons.
So the CIR will be discussed again, optimistically, in december. The House will name the conference committee members and schedule the conference committee. The conference committee may meet and discuss the differences in December/January. I'm confident that both chambers of congress will be more comfortable to deal with CIR after the elections. As I have said earlier, they have no choice but come up with some kind of border security legislation out of the conference committee. Optimistically, CIR may become law by next summer and it would be helpful for us, if our provisions survive the storm.
I agree with the "Passing under the radar" philosophy put forward by IV Core Team. Our best bet is CIR compared to other explicit bills like SKIL. Besides, if I understand SKIL correctly, it benifits only folks with Master's degree in US and 3 years of work experience in a related field (I do have this). So that is not a comprehensive solution for IV members.
The anti-immigration and outsourcing sentiment is high in this country now. Also, the corporations are only lobbying for H-1B visas. They will never lobby for GC's. It's against their interests for us to get GC's. So we, the GC seekers, are on our own. IV membership is below 5000 and our contributions are around 130K. IMO, this is not enough to influence the president to sign an emergency relief bill (someone suggested this) or even lobby the Congress for explicit bills like SKIL.
The best thing that we can do as of now is to get personally involved in recruiting more members for IV. I've pledged to myself that by the end of July, I'll ensure that I'll recruit 10 new members for IV. If we can get our membership atleast close to 50000 by the end of this year then we can make some significant noise.
So our options are:
1) To wait until next summer for CIR
2) EB3 folks with PD's as 2003 or higher, try to find a new job and file as EB2
3) EB2 folks with PD's 2004 or higher, try to find a new job that'll file for GC within 6 months
4) People who are in 7/8/9 years extensions of H1-B, consult good immigration lawyers and weigh in your options. The worst case scenario for you is to stick with your current firm as long as it takes for your GC. But there is no harm in trying, you may end up finding other viable options.
Long post, huh? This GC thing is getting on my nerves too:)
Peace Out!
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abhisam
07-15 12:42 AM
I have finally received my FP notice today for my I-485. My case was NSC-CSC-NSC. Never made any service request.
I have recently applied (paper based) for renewal of EAD and AP. Not sure if that triggered the FP notice.
I wish good luck to those who are still waiting for FP notice.
When did u apply for your ead? i am in the same boat and have filed for paper based EAD. hope to get my fp notice soon.
I have recently applied (paper based) for renewal of EAD and AP. Not sure if that triggered the FP notice.
I wish good luck to those who are still waiting for FP notice.
When did u apply for your ead? i am in the same boat and have filed for paper based EAD. hope to get my fp notice soon.
ashwin_27
11-19 01:25 PM
The goal of this action item is to get as many impacted EB folks to write to/talk to their lawmakers. i assume that is why this action item was announced on the public forum.
For every anti-immigrant who might view this message, we hope that there will be 20-50 EB folks who speak up and act on the action item. We cannot be scared of opposition and limit every action item to members only...that way we will never get a mass response that is required for such an initiative.
We have 29 guests viewing this thread as I type! Can we make this forum members only? IMHO they are not adding any value and may contain prying anti's in their mix....
For every anti-immigrant who might view this message, we hope that there will be 20-50 EB folks who speak up and act on the action item. We cannot be scared of opposition and limit every action item to members only...that way we will never get a mass response that is required for such an initiative.
We have 29 guests viewing this thread as I type! Can we make this forum members only? IMHO they are not adding any value and may contain prying anti's in their mix....
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immigrationmatters30
11-17 06:30 PM
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svgupta
05-23 11:50 AM
and hopefully, some take an action!
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mach1343
09-27 12:08 PM
I totally agree on EB3 to EB2 porting but the PD should be the day he qualified as EB2 not the original date of EB3 which makes sense.
This way everyone is happy.
People who have done Masters (EB2) should get the GCs first. :) ...Relax dont give me a red for this. I already had enough.
Chill out
This way everyone is happy.
People who have done Masters (EB2) should get the GCs first. :) ...Relax dont give me a red for this. I already had enough.
Chill out
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pappu
06-20 10:43 AM
Thanks for the update. Beginning from S. 1932 last year, we have been riding an extremely rough roller coaster. We are all sick of politics. I personally feel nothing much might be accomplished this year. A lot is at stake for politicians if they take any position. Thus dragging the issue and dealing with it next year seems to be their only option. It is a bad sign for lots of legal immigrants who have been anxiously waiting all this while. If at all anything can happen, it will only be due to initiative from the President. Or if President signs a emergency bill giving relief to outstanding, highly educated people who have been in line. This option maybe a daydream but will keep us optimistic until November this year. Sorry for sounding pessimistic.
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BharatPremi
11-01 05:21 PM
I am july 2 filer
I believe 180 days are over around 31 dec 2007 for using AC21
I am planning to quit my job and go to india for max 3 mnths
I have a job offer and they are ready to hire me from 1 april 2008
what precautions should i take so i dont have problems while coming back
I am planning to use AP
I would take 3 months of vacation (With written vacation approval from this date to that date)at present employer ( Even with "No Pay"), come back from India, THEN QUIT and then join new employer.
I believe 180 days are over around 31 dec 2007 for using AC21
I am planning to quit my job and go to india for max 3 mnths
I have a job offer and they are ready to hire me from 1 april 2008
what precautions should i take so i dont have problems while coming back
I am planning to use AP
I would take 3 months of vacation (With written vacation approval from this date to that date)at present employer ( Even with "No Pay"), come back from India, THEN QUIT and then join new employer.
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ganguteli
03-10 03:26 PM
Any lobbying for immigration is tough at the time of recession. I think you are trying to do advocacy effort. Without getting approval from core IV group it will not be any use as advocacy effort only will not work. Senators will note your concerns and will act only if some bill is introduced. You need lobbying with advocacy effort for changing any law. Lobbyists will lobby only at right time as if they do in wrong time it will backfire.
Senthil, I agree with you for once.
However some people are too bent on doing this campaign that they forget the realities. Maybe they are having a secure jobs and have EADs. So they have nothing to lose. For people on H1B any wrong step will cause government to shut down the entire immigration or punish immigrants. They did it with TARP and now they will do it in every industry if we do not understand. The newspaper headline will be H1B Indians immigrants asking for greencards after taking American jobs. Like it or not, but this is how antis will show us and all Americans and lawmakers who are sympathetic towards us till now will support antis due to bad economy and for the need of Citizens to stick together in bad times. You have also made this issue of Indians and that is a big no no. Indians now getting a bad name and have become notorious and if you highlight 'Indians' then you are in for a failure. So any campaign should be about all immigrants and not just Indians. Indian Immigrants are having a bad reputation in IT circles these days.
Guys do you know that economy is going from recession to depression? I read somewhere that in the last depression they shut down immigration. So let us not do anything that will be hard on H1Bs just because you have a secure EAD cards.
Senthil, I agree with you for once.
However some people are too bent on doing this campaign that they forget the realities. Maybe they are having a secure jobs and have EADs. So they have nothing to lose. For people on H1B any wrong step will cause government to shut down the entire immigration or punish immigrants. They did it with TARP and now they will do it in every industry if we do not understand. The newspaper headline will be H1B Indians immigrants asking for greencards after taking American jobs. Like it or not, but this is how antis will show us and all Americans and lawmakers who are sympathetic towards us till now will support antis due to bad economy and for the need of Citizens to stick together in bad times. You have also made this issue of Indians and that is a big no no. Indians now getting a bad name and have become notorious and if you highlight 'Indians' then you are in for a failure. So any campaign should be about all immigrants and not just Indians. Indian Immigrants are having a bad reputation in IT circles these days.
Guys do you know that economy is going from recession to depression? I read somewhere that in the last depression they shut down immigration. So let us not do anything that will be hard on H1Bs just because you have a secure EAD cards.
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11-17 07:03 PM
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MeraNaamJoker
08-21 10:48 AM
I think it is around 13 or 14...if they are under that, USCIS only takes a thumb print
I don't think there is a specific age where they will taken finger prints. Read my story.
My 15 yr old was the first to receive the notice. She was not in US at that time. I called the USCIS and informed them about this. They said they will postpone the appointment. But the postponement was only for 2 weeks. With the next notice I went to the local office. The security officer gave me a print out stating that I visited there for this reason. AND ACCORDING TO THAT NOTICE, FINGER PRINTING CAN BE DONE WITHIN 64 DAYS FROM THE ORIGINAL NOTICE. My child came back to US in 60 days and I took her to the local office walk in date. He got finger printed.
The very next week my 9 yr old got the notice. I took another appointment and next day I got a second finer printing notice for my elder one again. I took both of them to the local office and explained the situation. For my second child they did the finger printing and for my elder, they made a stamp on to the latest notice which was not at all clear.
Me and wife was never requested for a second finger printing. We all just got GREENED on August 6th.
I don't think there is a specific age where they will taken finger prints. Read my story.
My 15 yr old was the first to receive the notice. She was not in US at that time. I called the USCIS and informed them about this. They said they will postpone the appointment. But the postponement was only for 2 weeks. With the next notice I went to the local office. The security officer gave me a print out stating that I visited there for this reason. AND ACCORDING TO THAT NOTICE, FINGER PRINTING CAN BE DONE WITHIN 64 DAYS FROM THE ORIGINAL NOTICE. My child came back to US in 60 days and I took her to the local office walk in date. He got finger printed.
The very next week my 9 yr old got the notice. I took another appointment and next day I got a second finer printing notice for my elder one again. I took both of them to the local office and explained the situation. For my second child they did the finger printing and for my elder, they made a stamp on to the latest notice which was not at all clear.
Me and wife was never requested for a second finger printing. We all just got GREENED on August 6th.
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arung
08-13 11:23 AM
True, like I still have a EDD letter talks about my first case for GC was filled on Aug. 2001 as wanted to immigrant but what is the use, as I have to file new one as even if I have transferred my employment to my parent companies client, USCIS has no rule to transfer labor process or priority dates until has approved i140, they requires to file new one which surly takes time. And I am sure mostly people completed even 10 years of working waiting for GC have the same issue.
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kuhelica2000
01-30 06:20 PM
This is plain simple illegal to secure H1B without a job. Period. There is no question of moral or ethical issues here.
Moral and ethcial issues come with legal situations; like labor usb is legal but one can question whether it is etical. Same goes with PD porting. It's legal but one might question if it is ethical.
Geeting H1 through bodyshops showing false employment is a fraud. It's high time we reported all these fraud to DOL.
Guys,
as long as there is a leeway, people do tend to take the maximum advantage of that leeway. this applies in life in every aspect. OP did the same.
being moral or ethical is not the criterion here I guess, otherwise we would all have (I,C) have been current ( if no labor subs, eb3 to eb2 conversions etc).
I feel bad too, seeing some one who landed on H1B in 2006 , got hold of a 2002 labor sub. and is enjoying GC right now(thanks to July 2007 fiasco)., and for crying out loud I have been in USA since 2001, went to school here, is working in a physical science research position, have one patent and filed for 2 more.
I consider myself to have contributed to the USA, more than the guy I gave an example of (in terms of taxes, tuition, original research, etc). But does that all matter to the other guy, when he did what he did.
that is life :D
Moral and ethcial issues come with legal situations; like labor usb is legal but one can question whether it is etical. Same goes with PD porting. It's legal but one might question if it is ethical.
Geeting H1 through bodyshops showing false employment is a fraud. It's high time we reported all these fraud to DOL.
Guys,
as long as there is a leeway, people do tend to take the maximum advantage of that leeway. this applies in life in every aspect. OP did the same.
being moral or ethical is not the criterion here I guess, otherwise we would all have (I,C) have been current ( if no labor subs, eb3 to eb2 conversions etc).
I feel bad too, seeing some one who landed on H1B in 2006 , got hold of a 2002 labor sub. and is enjoying GC right now(thanks to July 2007 fiasco)., and for crying out loud I have been in USA since 2001, went to school here, is working in a physical science research position, have one patent and filed for 2 more.
I consider myself to have contributed to the USA, more than the guy I gave an example of (in terms of taxes, tuition, original research, etc). But does that all matter to the other guy, when he did what he did.
that is life :D
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sayonara
08-27 12:26 PM
Posted by Clockwork:
clockwork
Member Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 63
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Guys,
I have received receipt notice for my I-485. My AOS petition was received by J.Barrret at 10:25AM Nebraska Service Center. Later it got forwarded to TSC where my I-140 got approved few months before. Let me know if you have more questions...
Congrats ! Any LUD on your application?
clockwork
Member Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 63
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Guys,
I have received receipt notice for my I-485. My AOS petition was received by J.Barrret at 10:25AM Nebraska Service Center. Later it got forwarded to TSC where my I-140 got approved few months before. Let me know if you have more questions...
Congrats ! Any LUD on your application?
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makemygc
04-21 09:14 PM
Feeling so sad about whole thing. May his soul rest in piece. My best wishes with his family.
This thread just puts things in perspective. Getting a GC and beyond is a good thing, but in the larger scheme of things, enjoying the present moment and enjoying what you got is far more important. You never know when it can end !
This thread just puts things in perspective. Getting a GC and beyond is a good thing, but in the larger scheme of things, enjoying the present moment and enjoying what you got is far more important. You never know when it can end !
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missourian
09-26 01:47 PM
Hi ,
I have filed to NSC on August 2nd. Reached the cenetr on August 3rd. I see that many plp filed after me got RN's..anyone else in the same situation as me.
Thanks
Venkat
Mine was filed on Aug 1st reached NSC on august 2 nd, No updates yet, called USCIS they asked me to wait for 90 days, I am wondering how other ppl checking the status.
I have filed to NSC on August 2nd. Reached the cenetr on August 3rd. I see that many plp filed after me got RN's..anyone else in the same situation as me.
Thanks
Venkat
Mine was filed on Aug 1st reached NSC on august 2 nd, No updates yet, called USCIS they asked me to wait for 90 days, I am wondering how other ppl checking the status.
Raju
07-20 10:43 AM
I pledge $100.
Can we set a target of $100,000. Lets not forget other IV core too. Even they might have spent money. We should set up an administrative account.
Also can we send emails to everyone like the action alert, so that more people can join?
Good points...
Can we set a target of $100,000. Lets not forget other IV core too. Even they might have spent money. We should set up an administrative account.
Also can we send emails to everyone like the action alert, so that more people can join?
Good points...
imh1b
02-04 03:48 PM
Why is everyone making a big deal about going to India?
If you want to go , then go.
Its good for the backlog. One way to reduce the backlog if there is no bill is to encourage people to leave USA for 'green grass'. If they leave, we get our green card soon and grass will become green for us.
Let everyone be green and happy.
If you want to go , then go.
Its good for the backlog. One way to reduce the backlog if there is no bill is to encourage people to leave USA for 'green grass'. If they leave, we get our green card soon and grass will become green for us.
Let everyone be green and happy.
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