go_guy123
05-02 09:34 AM
If you count the taxes these 150K legal immigrants would have paid if they were in US for a year it is more than 2.5 billion dollars.
There was a recent study claiming that 14 million illegal immigrants pay 1.5 billion dollars a year in taxes (read mostly sales taxes). And thus US should legalize these 14 million people to continue to get 1.5 billion dollars a year.
Now you can compare 150K people vs 14 million people and who pays more.
The study fails to tell that these illegals do not have insurance. So they use hospitals for free. They do not pay federal taxes because they do not have a valid documentation. Even if they are allowed to pay federal tax, many will be below poverty line.
The study did not envision an economic scenario for America if 14 million illegals are legalized. How many will claim unemployment, social security, medicare etc. I can bet the cost to government will be in billions with many zeroes after that. Someone should call the reporter and the pro illegals who created that study to answer these questions.
It is possible for undocumented to pay teh federal and state taxes. They generally usea fake ssn and once the payroll is run taxes get sent to IRS.
There was a recent study claiming that 14 million illegal immigrants pay 1.5 billion dollars a year in taxes (read mostly sales taxes). And thus US should legalize these 14 million people to continue to get 1.5 billion dollars a year.
Now you can compare 150K people vs 14 million people and who pays more.
The study fails to tell that these illegals do not have insurance. So they use hospitals for free. They do not pay federal taxes because they do not have a valid documentation. Even if they are allowed to pay federal tax, many will be below poverty line.
The study did not envision an economic scenario for America if 14 million illegals are legalized. How many will claim unemployment, social security, medicare etc. I can bet the cost to government will be in billions with many zeroes after that. Someone should call the reporter and the pro illegals who created that study to answer these questions.
It is possible for undocumented to pay teh federal and state taxes. They generally usea fake ssn and once the payroll is run taxes get sent to IRS.
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Berkeleybee
05-17 01:22 PM
BerkeleyBee,
Thanks for opening a seperate thread for this.
Looking at the proceedings for the last 2 days i feel those opposed to immigration r using the delaying tactic to somwhow push out and kill the bill. It also looks like some form of the bill will come out eventually.
There are enough provisions in the bill which will have a significant effect on retrogression when it becomes a law.
As the bill progresses in the senate and in the conference, they may push out the effective date ( for the bill to become a law) to get the house aboard.
I wonder if we can ask for some non controversial portions of the bill such as capturing unused VISA numbers (they must be 90K) to become law immediatly. This will ease retrogression significantly as there will be no country limits for those numbers.
Can we ask any Senator to bring such an amendment.
(remember those who r here illegally and who need to wait for 8 years to apply for G.C can wait an year more. Need i say about those stuck in the Employment based categories.)
--MC
Mchundi,
I understand your anxiety. To answer your questions:
There is no chance of having any single set of provisions "become law immediately."
Unfortunately, we have to let this current round of discussions on CIR play out. What should we root for? That amendments to the current CIR that basically gut the bill fail. If the bill survives these amendments then we stand a good chance of succeeding in our efforts.
For strategic reasons, we cannot disclose everything we know about behind the scenes agreements.
Hang in there!
best,
Berkeleybee
Thanks for opening a seperate thread for this.
Looking at the proceedings for the last 2 days i feel those opposed to immigration r using the delaying tactic to somwhow push out and kill the bill. It also looks like some form of the bill will come out eventually.
There are enough provisions in the bill which will have a significant effect on retrogression when it becomes a law.
As the bill progresses in the senate and in the conference, they may push out the effective date ( for the bill to become a law) to get the house aboard.
I wonder if we can ask for some non controversial portions of the bill such as capturing unused VISA numbers (they must be 90K) to become law immediatly. This will ease retrogression significantly as there will be no country limits for those numbers.
Can we ask any Senator to bring such an amendment.
(remember those who r here illegally and who need to wait for 8 years to apply for G.C can wait an year more. Need i say about those stuck in the Employment based categories.)
--MC
Mchundi,
I understand your anxiety. To answer your questions:
There is no chance of having any single set of provisions "become law immediately."
Unfortunately, we have to let this current round of discussions on CIR play out. What should we root for? That amendments to the current CIR that basically gut the bill fail. If the bill survives these amendments then we stand a good chance of succeeding in our efforts.
For strategic reasons, we cannot disclose everything we know about behind the scenes agreements.
Hang in there!
best,
Berkeleybee
shivaz90
07-16 10:40 PM
It's pretty strange..I really don't understand...why the entire credit is either being given to IV...or for that matter to AILA/AILF....Everyone has contributed....
People about to file I-485 have spread the word to everyone abt the injustice done to them...whereas each organization has done its own thing...
I won't blame or taunt AILA/AILF....because the idea of class lawsuit itself would have scared a lot of people in USCIS.....that also coming from legal organization...And filing a lawsuit takes time...there r lot of things to be considered..
Well .. lets think for a second before trumpeting our victory here. And Victory, I mean is not achieved by one group over the other. Various groups and parties have put in thier efforts to find a resolution and to cast blame on one another is playing some childish games.
Lets leave out our passion for a second and think "logically" for a second - which one of this scares the s*** out of the USCIS people here - flower campaign or a Class action lawsuit by bunch of immigration lawyers? I am not doubting anyone's efforts here - but to say that we have achieved victory here is too early, too short sighted and blaming other groups for not doing much is silly. As much as the flower campaign help spread the word among the media of the plight of legal immigrants - the proposed lawsuit has made USCIS tremble in thier pants.
Sheikh - couldn't agree more here with you.
People about to file I-485 have spread the word to everyone abt the injustice done to them...whereas each organization has done its own thing...
I won't blame or taunt AILA/AILF....because the idea of class lawsuit itself would have scared a lot of people in USCIS.....that also coming from legal organization...And filing a lawsuit takes time...there r lot of things to be considered..
Well .. lets think for a second before trumpeting our victory here. And Victory, I mean is not achieved by one group over the other. Various groups and parties have put in thier efforts to find a resolution and to cast blame on one another is playing some childish games.
Lets leave out our passion for a second and think "logically" for a second - which one of this scares the s*** out of the USCIS people here - flower campaign or a Class action lawsuit by bunch of immigration lawyers? I am not doubting anyone's efforts here - but to say that we have achieved victory here is too early, too short sighted and blaming other groups for not doing much is silly. As much as the flower campaign help spread the word among the media of the plight of legal immigrants - the proposed lawsuit has made USCIS tremble in thier pants.
Sheikh - couldn't agree more here with you.
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coolvigo
07-15 04:56 PM
Check this thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20100
Also check this link where couple ppl spoke with their lawyers and they said we can apply for I-485 by attaching photocopy of old I-140 since we have and are applying for PD port.
http://www..com/discussion-forums/i485-1/114468227/
PS - I am also in same boat. I have not been able to talk to my lawyer yet since he is busy :rolleyes:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20100
Also check this link where couple ppl spoke with their lawyers and they said we can apply for I-485 by attaching photocopy of old I-140 since we have and are applying for PD port.
http://www..com/discussion-forums/i485-1/114468227/
PS - I am also in same boat. I have not been able to talk to my lawyer yet since he is busy :rolleyes:
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leoindiano
02-06 01:04 PM
looks like this is what happening...
They have 100's of 1000's of cases....thrown in one dark room.
They have this Q on their computers, with cases approved Namecheck, background check, I-140, FP complete....
Now, when they are assigned with a case, they will try to find the file....Just imagine its not easy to find the case, but USCIS doesnt put any effort to sort them either.
So, he will leave that case there, go to next one...This is just my guess...
They have 100's of 1000's of cases....thrown in one dark room.
They have this Q on their computers, with cases approved Namecheck, background check, I-140, FP complete....
Now, when they are assigned with a case, they will try to find the file....Just imagine its not easy to find the case, but USCIS doesnt put any effort to sort them either.
So, he will leave that case there, go to next one...This is just my guess...
scamp
04-21 01:13 PM
I know how you feel but Im sure your time will come, our application is in Texas Service Center also and we are current since March and I was expecting that it will be approved in November but thank God my husband received an approval email just today. Forget about their processing dates it was never followed in our case, our I-140 was supposed to be approved december last yr but we got approval notice last October, our receipt notice for I-145 is June 20, 2007 but we got approved today.
Here's other details:
Eb3 Philippines
PD July 2004
1-140/I-485 RD June 20'07
I-140 approved- Oct 25'07
I-485 aprroved- Apr 21'08
Here's other details:
Eb3 Philippines
PD July 2004
1-140/I-485 RD June 20'07
I-140 approved- Oct 25'07
I-485 aprroved- Apr 21'08
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palnati
07-20 01:48 PM
It doesn't matter. You can file G-325 or G-325A.
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gsc999
02-16 01:39 AM
See you there on Sunday
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paskal
12-21 11:12 AM
hope to have the calls set up soon
details will be posted here
will try to pm all responders too
plesae do check this thread in the coming days
please also continue to post here if you are interested in joining in
Thanks!
details will be posted here
will try to pm all responders too
plesae do check this thread in the coming days
please also continue to post here if you are interested in joining in
Thanks!
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rc10580
06-13 02:20 PM
Hi camberiu,
my PD is November 2001 and we are hoping that next bulletin will get us there. Keeping our fingers crossed. I am from Europe and my husband from Brazil (on H4 and probably the only unemployed software engineer!!!!!) We cannot wait to file and get his EAD! Good luck!
Renata
my PD is November 2001 and we are hoping that next bulletin will get us there. Keeping our fingers crossed. I am from Europe and my husband from Brazil (on H4 and probably the only unemployed software engineer!!!!!) We cannot wait to file and get his EAD! Good luck!
Renata
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abhisam
01-07 06:31 PM
Thanks Sanjay02.
Another follow-up question.. I'm planning to file for EAD, which passport number should I use in this form ?
If I use new one(which is valid), isn't it in contra with AOS application?
Has anyone faced this situation ?
I would like to know the answer to this question too. does anybody know?
also pkv..how many days did it take you to get the new passport?
Another follow-up question.. I'm planning to file for EAD, which passport number should I use in this form ?
If I use new one(which is valid), isn't it in contra with AOS application?
Has anyone faced this situation ?
I would like to know the answer to this question too. does anybody know?
also pkv..how many days did it take you to get the new passport?
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sinhakavinash
08-13 05:42 PM
Texas Service Center :rolleyes:
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thandan
03-15 07:19 PM
Typo fix
They have also obtained a I-797 for me as a backup which I have not used
They have also obtained a I-797 for me as a backup which I have not used
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Dj.Stigma
06-02 02:02 AM
My vote goes to Soul. Though all 3 wwws were very ugly and very user-unfriendly, Soul's 'beauty' (referring to his entry) was the one where i had to wait for the 'content' the longest time and it was very, very painful :hangover:
G... i mean Terrible job everyone ;-)
Peace
G... i mean Terrible job everyone ;-)
Peace
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john2255
07-20 02:44 PM
I am sorry to start a new thread but I feel the following thread is not getting the importance it should get. Everyone please dont miss the following thread. Its a big defeat during our celebrations.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10751
Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10751
Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected
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kaarmaa
01-19 12:43 PM
Oh God!!
How can we stop these EB2I - EB3I fights?
What unites us? Only in our fights for superiority?
How can we stop these EB2I - EB3I fights?
What unites us? Only in our fights for superiority?
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jonty_11
11-21 10:24 AM
I am a bit concerned that the debate has now been confined to H1B increase. I am not against that. but our cause seems to be slowly getting gropped from the tech lobby;s jargon. We may end up only seeing H1B relief in the Lame Duck session
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Rockford
07-17 02:44 PM
--
I couldn't help post a reply. I was trying not to add to the buzy server traffic.
Isn't it amazing, thousands of people are waiting with bated breath for the USCIS update news and some idiot opens a new threads to start a baseless rumor. And claims that news comes from Greg. This so called news as it turns out is a comment by some troll "south" on Greg's website.
Our friend here who opened this thread fails to even see the connection between the id handle "south" and his post" going south." Honestly, things like this make you wonder, how can such people call themselves highly skilled.
You will be proved biggest idiot when what you believe today is turned out to be wrong tomorrow. Who are you , a thread czar ?
If you don't like it, just move on.
That was an excerpt from some one then, but now I believe things are going south. Just don't make judgments about others without knowing every thing.
I couldn't help post a reply. I was trying not to add to the buzy server traffic.
Isn't it amazing, thousands of people are waiting with bated breath for the USCIS update news and some idiot opens a new threads to start a baseless rumor. And claims that news comes from Greg. This so called news as it turns out is a comment by some troll "south" on Greg's website.
Our friend here who opened this thread fails to even see the connection between the id handle "south" and his post" going south." Honestly, things like this make you wonder, how can such people call themselves highly skilled.
You will be proved biggest idiot when what you believe today is turned out to be wrong tomorrow. Who are you , a thread czar ?
If you don't like it, just move on.
That was an excerpt from some one then, but now I believe things are going south. Just don't make judgments about others without knowing every thing.
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thomachan72
05-10 12:43 PM
I too vote SBI.....do not use ICICI...
I have always used ICICI in the past...and recently started using SBI....they pay slightly more exchange rate than ICICI...and moreover it is a national bank....makes me feel good to use SBI compared to ICICI....
(sorry to go off topic)
BTW...talking of Banks....I just rencely knew that the FED Bank in the US is privately owned....(might be old info for many...but not for me)...
so here money is printed and lended out to the US by someone private...(Rothschild family, if you have not heard of them google the name)
=http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10489
Do you guys send >20K? via wire transfer?
I have always used ICICI in the past...and recently started using SBI....they pay slightly more exchange rate than ICICI...and moreover it is a national bank....makes me feel good to use SBI compared to ICICI....
(sorry to go off topic)
BTW...talking of Banks....I just rencely knew that the FED Bank in the US is privately owned....(might be old info for many...but not for me)...
so here money is printed and lended out to the US by someone private...(Rothschild family, if you have not heard of them google the name)
=http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10489
Do you guys send >20K? via wire transfer?
logiclife
12-01 03:33 PM
The job description is the key. Titles dont matter. My official title at my company is "programmer level 3".( I am an Oracle programmer)
That doesnt mean anything to anyone OUTSIDE of my company. Does it mean that I am top-level programmer? or does it mean that I am 3rd level junior programmer?
But the JOB DESCRIPTION must be accurate.(As much as possible, there is a limit to how much 10 lines can do in describing your job).
As far as resume is concerned, didnt your lawyer look at your resume before filing labor? I remember my lawyer consulting my HR, my boss and my resume before writing the job description on my labor so that its accurate. Anyways, resume is something that is subject to change all the time and I dont think USCIS expects you to have your resume in line with your job desc on labor. Resume is about your qualifications and abilities - which may or may not be the same thing that your actually perform at your work.
That doesnt mean anything to anyone OUTSIDE of my company. Does it mean that I am top-level programmer? or does it mean that I am 3rd level junior programmer?
But the JOB DESCRIPTION must be accurate.(As much as possible, there is a limit to how much 10 lines can do in describing your job).
As far as resume is concerned, didnt your lawyer look at your resume before filing labor? I remember my lawyer consulting my HR, my boss and my resume before writing the job description on my labor so that its accurate. Anyways, resume is something that is subject to change all the time and I dont think USCIS expects you to have your resume in line with your job desc on labor. Resume is about your qualifications and abilities - which may or may not be the same thing that your actually perform at your work.
fingerscrossed
11-14 03:20 PM
Letstalklc,
Thanks! Good luck with yours too.
No, my application is not filed by Fragoman.
Apparently, there are some fellow in my law firms, who got audited before September 2007 (mine is November 2007), and they havent been approved. So apparently, it is more random than FIFO.
It really sucks.
it would be very helpful if you entered your info on the t-r-a-c-k-i-t-t website.
Congrats!
Thanks! Good luck with yours too.
No, my application is not filed by Fragoman.
Apparently, there are some fellow in my law firms, who got audited before September 2007 (mine is November 2007), and they havent been approved. So apparently, it is more random than FIFO.
It really sucks.
it would be very helpful if you entered your info on the t-r-a-c-k-i-t-t website.
Congrats!
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